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1) (direct) mid-size (10-12 ish?) red haired girl, lives on a giant sci-fi tourbus that goes through faerie. Likes machines. What's her name?

2) (tangential) What happens to your personal mythologies (the monster under the bed, your imaginary friend, the fantasy land you were going to end up in when you stepped through the mirror or whatnot...) when you grow up? [[do they change & stick with you, disappear when forgotten, carry on without you in some other direction?]]

All answers welcome. (personal/hypothetical/references to works of fiction/etc)

Date: 2008-08-15 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thanate.livejournal.com
Um, personal mythology is a kind of amorphous thing... it's the fictional or semi-fictional things that you carry around in your head and believe in. (not even necessarily believe are true, just believe in.) So some of your personal mythology will overlap with most people you know [your favorite book/movie/video game that you relate things to, your idea of "the american dream"], some may be shared by fewer people [the concept of the perfect guy that you and your friend banter back and forth, the game you and your sister used to play when you were kids, the family stories and names for things that other people don't know], and some may be purely yours, like the story you've made up for your dolls.

They can be very elaborate and detailed and separate from your life [[livejournal.com profile] saladmonkeylamb's webcomic is her attempt to sort out her personal mythologies, flesh out the bits in the middle and write them all down. Her stories live in a comic-book world and all take place in the same city, and her characters interact or don't over a span of years and all have last names and everything.] or they may be little wisps of things [like the place in the woods where the wanderers camp] that don't involve any more story than that.

Ultimately, it's the concepts that cause you to relate to the world the way you do, or that you've made up to help you relate to it. Or because they amuse you, and stick around. The character your write fanfic about or the scary Jesus prayer rug or Martel as Batman, or the ideas you're trying to get across with pictures of dead dolls. Or the things you always remember about your mom, and the things you don't talk about because they're too important or too silly to share with other people.

So... my question is: the concepts that were important to you fifteen or twenty years ago... what happened to them? Or alternately, the concepts that were important to other people, who maybe had monsters under the bed or imaginary friends, what would be likely to happen to them as they became perhaps less important? What happens to the people you've made your dolls into if you wipe their faces and sell them, or pack them up in boxes? (I'm thinking mainly in a fictional sense... no need to be too literal.)

Does that help?

Date: 2008-08-15 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittymaru.livejournal.com
That's a huge question. It's like I believe I can do anything and I believe in love and that dead people sometimes talk to me and that I might just be delusional but only sane people question their sanity.

I keep the Jesus rug on my fridge. Martel is Batman, but I'm Wolverine. (Martel really isn't Batman. He's something else entirely.) Aliens still haunt the shadows of my bedroom at night. Night lights don't keep them away. Neither do cats. They're transdimensional. I don't sleep with any lights on. I like to see the moon. Always have.

We also swam in the river behind my neighborhood and swung from the ropes in the trees like Tarzan girls and waded through water rife with watermoccasins and got eaten alive by tics. Sometimes I still climb trees.

If I were to wipe them and sell them, the personality as doll would cease to exist. When I sell a doll, it's gone. That's it and finite.

Have you heard that overpalyed song, "No Handlebars"?? I think that's about what you're asking. I find it compelling.

Maya is the missing piece of Jacqual and Mr. Ibis.

Date: 2008-08-15 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thanate.livejournal.com
If I were to wipe them and sell them, the personality as doll would cease to exist. When I sell a doll, it's gone. That's it and finite.

But where does "gone" go? Because who they were is still in your head somewhere... (actually, that's maybe one of my mythologies, that there's something strange/mystical/creepy about things actually disappearing. I mean, you have something, and you know you haven't taken it out of the house, how can it possibly not be there? And yet, there are things that have disappeared for *years* and I'm absolutely positive they weren't gotten rid of...)

Have you heard that overpalyed song, "No Handlebars"?? I think that's about what you're asking. I find it compelling.

I hadn't heard it, but just did a lyrics search. Interesting-- I think that's less about mythology (the bits that stick with you and turn up repeatedly) than dream or potential (I could do all this stuff, but the corollary is you have to give up some of it to achieve the rest) which is related but not quite what I was getting at.

Um... maybe a better example-- it's like Labyrinth, where all the people she meets/befriends, and even the labyrinth itself, are all her childhood toys sitting around her room. And they come back for her when she thinks she's ready to give them up. Except that other people have other takes on this theory. I'm looking for the range of options of what might happen to people's abandoned or forgotten early myths.

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